tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post7903165252389012789..comments2024-03-27T22:32:17.055-05:00Comments on Jeffs Gameblog: The Dungeonpunk QuestionJeff Rientshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-34231576884981945042007-01-02T08:08:00.000-06:002007-01-02T08:08:00.000-06:00Wow.
I remember seeing that cover in a Game Store...Wow.<br /><br />I remember seeing that cover in a Game Store when I was in too much of a hurry to seriously check it out, but thinking it was wicked cool. When I got back to the store (months later - I live a long way from such things) the book/box was gone, and the clerks couldn't tell what I was talking about from my vague description. From that day 'til now I never knew what I'd seen. I actually thought it had been something I'd dreamt of. So thanks!<br /><br />I'd never heard the word 'dungeonpunk' before I saw Dr. Rotwang's pic, which was a perfect example of a picture being worth a thousand words. Personally I'm glad we got away from the Tolkien look and feel. It's been over done and, after all, who does Tolkien as well as Tolkien?<br /><br />But there's been way too many modules detailing struggles against the gibbering horrors of the abyss (including every single damn one of the adventure paths in the Dungeon magazine). I hate gibbering horrors. What's wrong with Dragons, or Evil Cardinals? If I have to kill one more maggot-based villain. . .<br /><br />An art student might say that dungeonpunk is a (not very subtle) ironic response to Tolkien-style fantasy. If so, maybe we just have to wait for the ironic response to the ironic response to catch on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-53033462437048369012007-01-02T07:40:00.000-06:002007-01-02T07:40:00.000-06:00Never underestimate the influence of Photoshop fil...Never underestimate the influence of Photoshop filters on Dungeonpunk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-51412158794500358012007-01-02T05:37:00.000-06:002007-01-02T05:37:00.000-06:00Well, S. John, your statements only serve to remin...Well, S. John, your statements only serve to remind us that the Brits are weird; they make pudding out of blood and I'm pretty sure Elton John is gay, so Bob's your uncle.Dr Rotwanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16750632906878388570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-21027698002300898652007-01-02T00:00:00.000-06:002007-01-02T00:00:00.000-06:00Another thing to ponder is that the look that a lo...Another thing to ponder is that the look that a lot of folks now call "dungeonpunk" was pretty common in the 1980s in U.K. fantasy art (not always _gaming_ fantasy art, since some publishers were marketing in the U.S.) and to an even greater extent in mags like Heavy Metal and the eurocomics that Heavy Metal was reflecting/showcasing.<br /><br />The divergence/convergence thing you mentioned was mostly an American thing, I think ... in Europe and the U.K. everything "fantasy" (more loosely defined, which was always part of the point) was in a continual process of becoming more grimy, leathery and trench-coatty throughout the decade, without wavering or distraction.<br /><br />Of course, modern dungeonpunk depends more on the European stuff than on the U.K. stuff ... the British punky-fantasy (cover of the original WFRP, anyone?) was always leavened with dark humour, while [much of] the Heavy Metal stuff was flat-out joyless ... something that echoes too often in dungeonpunk, IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-76576220281664406232007-01-01T21:16:00.000-06:002007-01-01T21:16:00.000-06:00...I've expressed my thoughts with pen and ink....I've expressed my thoughts with pen and ink.Dr Rotwanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16750632906878388570noreply@blogger.com