tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post7519751211292791759..comments2024-03-27T22:32:17.055-05:00Comments on Jeffs Gameblog: Review: Adventure Games Journal #1Jeff Rientshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-64293305153950978752008-07-14T10:22:00.000-05:002008-07-14T10:22:00.000-05:00Hi guys! Sorry I've not replied earlier; I still d...Hi guys! Sorry I've not replied earlier; I still don't have Internet access at home yet (this was written at the local library).<BR/><BR/>The price I think is reasonable. 48 pages per issue for $12 isn't bad when you realize that there are only two ads (both house ads) and save for the cover and the index/OGL page, everything is content. Compare that to any classic Dragon magazine and you will see that there are at least the same, if not more pages of content. Also realize that Dragon was subsidized by ads, while AGJ is not, so the full cost must go to the consumer.<BR/><BR/>As for printing, it is damned if you do, damned if you don't. I print at a Print on Demand printer, which means that the number printed can be very low, but the per unit cost is rather high. I cannot print at a standard printer, as to get even a half-decent discount I would need to print thousands of units, and the market just isn't that big anymore.<BR/><BR/>You can also compare it to the Paizo products. 96 pages for $19.95 from them; yes it is in full color, but again, they go through standard printers and print tens of thousands at a time, getting a much, much greater discount than I ever could. It is a matter of scale.<BR/><BR/>As for the subscriptions, a 3-issue sub actually includes three issues of the magazine and three issues of the campaign installment (the Judges Guide for the various Wilderlands settings) plus free maps and other goodies and discounts on non-sub products. So the $84 cost is actually $14 per unit, and that includes shipping and handling (all products are bagged and boarded and sent First Class Parcel). The 6-issue sub is even a better deal, at $144 or $12 per unit (six magazines and six installments). Essentially shipping is free for a 6-issue sub.<BR/><BR/>Subs are not offered at 50%+ discounts because, again, there is no subsidy from advertising. Print media is dying because of a lack of advertising; that's what killed Inquest, not to mention many, many other magazines and newspapers. And the gaming industry is even worse for advertising. Without that advertising, the full costs must be passed on to the buyer.<BR/><BR/>That's why the cost is so high on a per-unit basis. As a final thought, when you look around and say, "But so and so sold a 48-page product for only half that!" look to where that company is today... likely, they are out of business, as they were not charging what they needed to in order to make their product profitable...James Mishlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588233931813111541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-77266709127631551722008-07-11T13:48:00.000-05:002008-07-11T13:48:00.000-05:00It must be mine!!!It must be mine!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-26668466513097337282008-07-10T02:49:00.000-05:002008-07-10T02:49:00.000-05:00The mag looks really great and I loved the setting...The mag looks really great and I loved the setting but at that price for just 3 issues. There is no way, not even if my home group pitched in. <BR/><BR/>I hate to rag on the price but they need to find a cheaper printer or make PDFs available it a reasonable cost. Even Average Joe Gamer, I seriously doubt can afford this thing and if it really is that good then this will just prompt it to show up on file share all that much quicker and when that happens, no money will be seen.<BR/><BR/>JerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-42659149869972491352008-07-09T23:46:00.000-05:002008-07-09T23:46:00.000-05:00Dungeon Crawl Classics pdfs are all half price now...<I>Dungeon Crawl Classics pdfs are all half price now</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://goodmangames.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?cPath=187_4296&products_id=50480&affiliate_id=17667" REL="nofollow">The 1e Saga of the Witch Queen</A> is a good one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-25300145296730008552008-07-09T17:07:00.000-05:002008-07-09T17:07:00.000-05:00By the way, Dungeon Crawl Classics pdfs are all ha...By the way, Dungeon Crawl Classics pdfs are all half price now, since they are switching to 4th Edition soon and by the terms of the new licence won't be able to sell the old 3.5 ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-67887086707052468562008-07-08T12:40:00.000-05:002008-07-08T12:40:00.000-05:00I, too, was very happy with Adventure Games Journa...I, too, was very happy with Adventure Games Journal #1. I'm looking forward to more!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-78005294037082672352008-07-08T12:37:00.000-05:002008-07-08T12:37:00.000-05:00I'd go $6-$10 on a PDF if the maps were kept at a ...I'd go $6-$10 on a PDF if the maps were kept at a decent print resolution and the pages dense with gaming groovery :)S. John Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284417121877141161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-39608240101935871942008-07-08T10:24:00.000-05:002008-07-08T10:24:00.000-05:00I never got into Wilderlands but f I could get a $...I never got into Wilderlands but f I could get a $5 pdf, I'd give the journal a try.<BR/><BR/>StanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-23587908977121509132008-07-07T22:45:00.000-05:002008-07-07T22:45:00.000-05:00Korgoth: yeah, after I calmed down I went and look...Korgoth: yeah, after I calmed down I went and looked at the prices :(<BR/><BR/>Still, such is the nature of small press ... and given that I've blown $16 on RPG supplements of that size and been burned on absolute crapola, I'm still tempted to extend beyond what I can afford to give the first one a go, since $16 on that much RPG material that Jeff thumbs-up is a risk I might be wiling to take, maybe and possibly ... because if it rocks my gaming table, that's potentially many dozens of hours of entertainment.<BR/><BR/>If it's just fun to read, it's not worth that much cashola to me. But if it grabs me by the throat and demands to be PLAYED ... then it's a bargain.<BR/><BR/>[does that fretful finger-tapping gesture from Wall-E]<BR/><BR/>I must ponder :(S. John Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284417121877141161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-63299231373638796462008-07-07T22:06:00.000-05:002008-07-07T22:06:00.000-05:00I loved the hell out of this product. And Map #18...I loved the hell out of this product. And Map #18: Southern Reaches by AGP as well. God, what a beautiful piece of cartography that is. Really, really excellent work that I hope to see more of in the future.Zachary Houghtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01166638173640517627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-7007923353630546182008-07-07T21:06:00.000-05:002008-07-07T21:06:00.000-05:00Dude. You had me until I saw the price. Not fo' us...Dude. You had me until I saw the price. Not fo' us po' fokes! Like, can I get a scholarship? Or financing? =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-2544630430650818102008-07-07T18:18:00.000-05:002008-07-07T18:18:00.000-05:00Ooh; didn't know about this. Happy to learn of it ...Ooh; didn't know about this. Happy to learn of it here :)S. John Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284417121877141161noreply@blogger.com