tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post2327077003358695513..comments2024-03-27T22:32:17.055-05:00Comments on Jeffs Gameblog: Jeff's Incomplete Guide to the new Retro StupidJeff Rientshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-22337020075848481102012-07-08T22:35:27.829-05:002012-07-08T22:35:27.829-05:00This is a great list. You should check out my game...This is a great list. You should check out my game ZWEIHÄNDER Grim and Perilous RPG. It's a Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay retroclone designed like GURPS, and can be used with any game campaign. http://www.grimandperilous.comDaniel D. Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14078996660419628724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-86791526069649864622008-03-15T05:42:00.000-05:002008-03-15T05:42:00.000-05:00Great list. BFRPG clerics DON'T get a spell at fi...Great list. BFRPG clerics DON'T get a spell at first level though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-3939961318514622462008-03-03T08:02:00.000-06:002008-03-03T08:02:00.000-06:00Nice list. I've read/skimmed them all already but...Nice list. I've read/skimmed them all already but it's nice to have them all in one spot. <BR/><BR/>Wulfgar's additions are sweet too. Barbarians of Lemuria is great for a Conan style game. I have most of Simon Washbourne's games and really like his simple style.<BR/><BR/>I need to pick up Broadsword - I keep hearing about it. Most likely, this week.<BR/><BR/>I'm gonna start a new game with my 8 year old, Labyrinth Lord is high on my list.<BR/><BR/>StanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-80712006269221794752008-03-02T11:38:00.000-06:002008-03-02T11:38:00.000-06:00That is a great list! I already have Basic Fantasy...That is a great list! I already have Basic Fantasy, so I didn't think I'd need Labyrinth Lord. But damn, an even more authentic homage to Moldvay, with that cover and reminding me that I still haven't bought a copy of EC? My wallet's gonna hurt!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973301663176412762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-84169224349236973072008-03-02T00:13:00.000-06:002008-03-02T00:13:00.000-06:00I agree that Palladium Fantasy is nearly-pure Retr...I agree that Palladium Fantasy is nearly-pure Retro Stupid. That said, it isn't _new_ Retro Stupid, so it would belong in a theoretical "Jeff's Incomplete Guide to the classics of Retro Stupid." :)S. John Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284417121877141161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-50165223617081089682008-03-01T13:40:00.000-06:002008-03-01T13:40:00.000-06:00Does Palladium Fantasy count?I don´t see any "pret...Does Palladium Fantasy count?<BR/><BR/>I don´t see any "pretentious" in it, so it must be retro stupid, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-12783890501114418412008-02-29T17:20:00.000-06:002008-02-29T17:20:00.000-06:00Rereading this list just now reminded me that what...Rereading this list just now reminded me that what I really want to do is hack the magic system from Ars Magica onto True20. That would be fun.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200883230437111275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-87530560733497275242008-02-29T15:37:00.000-06:002008-02-29T15:37:00.000-06:00Man, what a groovy list. I hadn't heard of a third...Man, what a groovy list. I hadn't heard of a third of these, and am now busy checking them out ...<BR/><BR/>(And many thanks for the "don't skim") :)S. John Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284417121877141161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-12006167984001683812008-02-29T13:30:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:30:00.000-06:00Wulfgar,Lejendary Adventure is unlike any of the l...Wulfgar,<BR/><BR/><B>Lejendary Adventure</B> is unlike any of the level-based classic <B>D&D</B>-style games. The best comparison would be to a rules-light <B>Runequest</B> or an extremely rules-light version of <B>Dangerous Journeys: Mythus</B>, as characters are skill-package based rather than class-based. Essentially, Gary designed it to be the polar opposite of the <B>D&D</B> game type system-wise, though it still has the a lot of the "kill the monsters, steal their treasure" play style.<BR/><BR/>Your "avatar" (character) can still have an "order" (class), but the "ranks" (levels) in the class are based on increases in important skills... the higher the skill levels, the higher in your order you can rise, and the more social, training, and material benefits you gain. Ranks actually go backward, starting from 12th being the most inexperienced and lowest-ranking to 1st, the highest; the orders are really more like classic guilds. But if you don't want to be in an order if you don't have to, though you gain fewer benefits that way.<BR/><BR/>Combat is all percentile based, and weapon damage is all based on the d20 (kinda like the original "all damage is 1d6" in OD&D). Combt can be fast, furious, and deadly. Monsters are often non-traditional and unusual, though the basic types are all there in some form.<BR/><BR/>The default campaign setting, Lejendary Earth (or "Learth") is cut from the same cloth as Aerth, Gary's setting for DJ: Mythus, being another Earth alternate, though it is more "fantastic" and less "mundane" in structure, and has a lot more wide-open space.<BR/><BR/>I can't recommend the game more; for fantasy, when I want to get out of the D&D/C&C/HackMaster style of game, LA is the way to go.James Mishlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588233931813111541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-9596626945270371002008-02-29T13:27:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:27:00.000-06:00Thanks Jeff, I'll have to go over there and check ...Thanks Jeff, I'll have to go over there and check it out.<BR/><BR/>A few other fantasy RPGs that are out there today:<BR/><BR/>Broadsword 1PG rpg. A swords and sorcery game by the Evil DM (including several excellent adventures!) sold as a PDF at rpg.now/drivethrurpg<BR/><BR/>Dungeon Squad a super rules lite Hack and slash game. Downloadable for free at http://www.1km1kt.net/rpg/dungeon_squad.pdf<BR/><BR/>Barbarians of Lemuria- another swords and sorcery game available free here: http://www.geocities.com/barbariansoflemuria/<BR/><BR/>Not to mention there's a trimmed down version of Tunnels and Trolls available for free at drivethrurpg.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-74485874975982172412008-02-29T13:20:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:20:00.000-06:00Uhhh, that should be LA, not LJ.Uhhh, that should be LA, not LJ.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-59958673016701429662008-02-29T13:13:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:13:00.000-06:00wulfgar, I don't really know anything about LJ, bu...wulfgar, I don't really know anything about LJ, but I bet you over at the Troll Lords board they could hook you up.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-51122394639385692172008-02-29T13:04:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:04:00.000-06:00Excellent work, Jeff!Excellent work, Jeff!Zachary Houghtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01166638173640517627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-42893171440866111952008-02-29T13:03:00.000-06:002008-02-29T13:03:00.000-06:00Hey Jeff, do you have any experience with Mr. Gyga...Hey Jeff, do you have any experience with Mr. Gygax's Lejendary Adventure rpg? I'm curious how it stacks up with these other new school old school games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-53450960174953215092008-02-29T12:42:00.000-06:002008-02-29T12:42:00.000-06:00Also worth mentioning -- there's now an explicit G...Also worth mentioning -- there's now an explicit GURPS treatment of "kill the orcs, take their stuff" gaming, in a two-book set, called Dungeon Fantasy 1 and 2 (the players' and GM's books, respectively).<BR/><BR/>http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/dungeonfantasy/<BR/>http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/dungeonfantasy2/<BR/><BR/>Available as PDFs; each one is eight bucks.<BR/><BR/>I'll stick to my Cyclopedia, I think (or possibly Shadowrun, second edition).Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200883230437111275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-47833434063308072472008-02-29T12:05:00.000-06:002008-02-29T12:05:00.000-06:00Perhaps not shockingly, I have most of these alrea...Perhaps not shockingly, I have most of these already. <BR/><BR/>What does that mean? It means that this's a great list.Dr Rotwanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16750632906878388570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7652921.post-20189322465286988742008-02-29T11:57:00.000-06:002008-02-29T11:57:00.000-06:00That's a great summary Jeff - and it's good to see...That's a great summary Jeff - and it's good to see my own Microlite20 getting some love too :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com